Thursday, September 16, 2010

A Word About Our Forefathers

Nowadays, it has become increasingly popular to start a political argument by referencing the constitution and our forefathers. Not only is that a popular start to the back and forth, but it is often seen as an end to the discussion as well. As if our forefathers were so perfect in word and deed that any discussion beyond their original intentions is pointless and foolish.

But who were these men? Did their deeds always match their words? Not hardly.

Perhaps the most famous of our founders are Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, George Washington, and Thomas Jefferson. Four extraordinary men during extraordinary times, certainly. All far from perfect.

Franklin smoked weed, sired a child out of wedlock, and was a womanizer into his seventies.

Washington supported the Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798 that sought to diminish free speech against the government.

Adams was a member of the Federalist Party formed by Alexander Hamilton that was lead primarily by urban bankers (and we all know how people feel about urban bankers don't we?).

Jefferson was perhaps the most paradoxical of the four. He was offended by intellectual women (save that of Abigail Adams), and was against women's suffrage in general. He wrote "All men are created equal" but owned slaves until the day he died. He coined the term, "Noble Savage" but made great efforts to push the American Indian west of the Mississippi.

In fact, three of these four men owned slaves (only Adams did not) at one time in their lives while claiming to be abolitionists.

Franklin's history with slaves is relatively brief and minor when compared with that of Washington and Jefferson. Franklin is personally (dis)credited with the ownership of two slaves although in his younger days he did buy and sell slaves out of his shop, performing a "middle man" service.

However, Washington--much like Jefferson--died on Mount Vernon with 123 documented slaves working on the grounds of his home. While Washington did free all of his slaves upon his death, he was not a completely benevolent slave owner (if such a thing can exist). He was not above flogging slaves (both men and women) if he found them to be lagging.

Of course, Washington had nothing on Jefferson, who sired multiple children with his slave, Sally Hemmings. It was also believed that Hemmings may have been the half-sister of Jefferson's wife, Martha. I bet the lady of the house was wondering when it was going to stop, to paraphrase Mick Jagger.

Washington and Jefferson were not much better when it came to the American Indian either.

Washington once compared the I ndian race to wolves--"both being beasts of prey, tho' they differ in shape"-- and practiced a policy or extermination. In 1779 Washington charged General John Sullivan with laying waste "to all thee settlements around...that the country may not be merely overrun, but destroyed."

Of the American Indian, Jefferson once said that America must "pursue [the Indians] to extermination, or drive them to new seats beyond our reach."

Now, you might think that these are pretty un-Christian ideas, but it's worth noting that neither Washington nor Jefferson (or Franklin for that matter) would probably qualify as Christians. Their personal religious beliefs would probably fall under the category of Deism. Which is to believe that one supreme being has indeed created the universe. However, Deists do not believe in the divinity of Christ or an interventionist God, or even miracles for that matter.

All of which is worth remembering the next time you hear someone talk about our "Christian Nation," or protest the erecting of a mosque.

I mention all of these warts and flaws not because these four men didn't live exceptional lives. Nothing could be further from the truth. No, I bring these facts forward because they were able to sign (and in Jefferson's case, write) a document that declares the equality of all men, while owning slaves (save Adams) and attempting to eradicate the existence of the indigenous people (minus Adams and Franklin) whom they found on "their" land. I think it's fair to say, that their interpretation of the constitution was as elastic as the times warranted. Which in some ways, makes them as jacked up as anyone else.

In other words, they were men not Gods.

Act accordingly.

50 comments:

  1. Men tend -- disappointingly -- to hold themselves only to the standards of their time.

    David's article is an excellent reminder to all of us to challenge our consciences to meet much higher standards, lest our failings (which might seem small to us at the time) overshadow our accomplishments.

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  2. The Founding Fathers, Nick Cave and Me - Don't believe in an interventionist god - but I know, darling, that you do.

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  3. Loved it!!! Some things I knew, but I always learn something from Dave!!!!

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  4. I am a veritable fountain of information. I'm a fountain of a few other things as well. :)

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  5. A great article and it adds a lot of clarity to who our founding fathers were.

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  6. But they were great men.

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  7. To a point above and beyond the call of duty, I think. They were by no means perfect, but it's important to note that America only survived its infancy because of their efforts. They didn't do all that they could have done, for sure, but the fact is, they stepped up when no one else was willing to, and created a free country. That's no easy feat. Had I been alive at the time, I doubt I could have done as good a job as they did, and I think that holds true for a lot of us.

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  8. Fair enough. But we should recall ALL that they did, not just the parts that make us feel warm and fuzzy.

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  10. A truer word than most who quote them as if the invented fire. They were instrumental in what we have today but....

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  13. That'd be they're^If you're gonna hate, then hate correctly.

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  14. Amy Melenbacker McMullenSeptember 21, 2010 at 4:15 PM

    These are the parts most revered by the Tea Party.

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  15. They made mistakes, and some were terrible (Andrew Jackson, worst president ever), but, though they didn't get everything right all the time, they still did great things, and I think we should honor and respect them for that.

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  16. ‎^ he needs a lot more than that

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  17. Holy smokes, that "report" is so full of holes it reads like Christine O'Donnell's resume! LMAO!

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  19. Stephen Colbert's March to Keep Fear AliveSeptember 21, 2010 at 4:19 PM

    Having four fathers is precisely why we conservatives are against gay rights! We were raised by them, we're well aware of the related trauma other children could suffer.

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  20. I know that:

    All geese fly south for the winter,
    and so do your grandparents,
    Therefore, your grandparents are ducks.
    ...
    But, what about your four fathers?

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  21. Stephen Colbert's March to Keep Fear AliveSeptember 21, 2010 at 4:20 PM

    Our four fathers were gay, the Flintstones want us to have a 'gay old time', so I'm thinking our four fathers are the Flintstones.

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  24. Larry Evolution PattersonSeptember 21, 2010 at 4:22 PM

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  25. ‎"Squashing freedom of speech, owning slaves, murdering indians and a disbelief in the divinity of Christ."

    I read this and can't help but think "rape, arson, murder, and jaywalking

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  26. Ha! Now there's a viewpoint I hadn't considered. My point is they weren't exactly who you think they were.

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  27. Sabrina Goodman-BeharieSeptember 21, 2010 at 4:23 PM

    They see the forefathers from a different angle, their idea of liberty and ours are as different as day and night.

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  28. Look them guy's are dead ........ i live for today not yesterday !

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  29. And if not today, then tomorrow or the next day, someone will throw the forefathers in your face to explain why Obama is a socialist, Kenyan, whatever. And as far as context of the times, would you use the same analogy about Hitler? Because we exterminated a helluva lot more Indians than he did Jews. Oh, but that's ok, it was the context of the times. Genius.

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  30. Back then they also did NOT have fast food. Today counting to ten is crucial for ordering your next meal.

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  31. Very interesting information. We need to consider the context if the times.

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  32. Great read again, David! I love the Stones quote!

    I am sick of people trying to act like we can only have the knowledge and wisdom of those from the 1800's. We can only have things that were around then? They knew how to deal with the issues... we nave now?

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  33. How come we can only consider the context of the times when it comes to the bad stuff?

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  34. I liked it and how you didn't feel the need to hammer the side that wraps themselves in jargon to sound pious. You made your point with class, two "ss", unlike most of the other side who use just one /s/ to spell class.

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  35. Deirdre George Davis That's deep ... I'll feel free to share as usual.

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  36. Wow - that was excellent! Thanks, David

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  37. I think the trolls on this page were refering to their four fathers, they've narrowed it down to four."

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  41. @David. Touche! I stand corrected.

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