"For the next six months, candidate and Vice President Al Gore is going to smear you as the enemy. He will slander you as gun-toting, knuckle-dragging, bloodthirsty maniacs who stand in the way of a safer America. Will you remain silent? I will not remain silent. If we are going to stop this, then it is vital to every law-abiding gun owner in America to register to vote and show up at the polls on election day. So, as we set out this year to defeat the divisive forces that would take freedom away, I want to say those fighting words for everyone within the sound of my voice to hear and to heed, and especially for you, Mr. Gore: 'From my cold, dead hands!'--Charlton Heston, May 20th, 2000 at the 129th NRA Convention in Charlotte, NC
And that was pretty much the final word on gun control for the next decade. After Al Gore "lost" the election, and particularly his home state of Tennessee, no major national Democrat has even dared to broach the subject.
This wasn't always the case. In 1994, then President Clinton signed into law the Assault Weapons Ban, outlawing the sale or purchase of certain semi-automatic weapons. After the horror of Columbine, their was much discussion of further tightening the restrictions around guns that were not meant for hunting or reasonable protection. However, once Gore went down to "defeat" to George W. Bush, the Democratic Party pretty much gave up on the issue.
Hell, despite the support of several national police organizations and the fact that President Bush said he would sign a bill into law if the congress approved it, an attempted extension in 2004 of the Assault Weapons Ban went down to defeat in the Senate by a vote of 8 to 90. Which means a whole helluva lot of Democrats went along with the Republican majority.
Now, after the awful events in Tucson earlier this month, come the first semi-serious discussion of gun laws in years. I say semi-serious, not because those doing the discussing aren't genuine. No. I say semi-serious because "everybody knows this is nowhere," to quote Neil Young.
This well meaning effort is so hopeless, that you are barely even hearing a peep out of the NRA. Why? Because they don't need to peep. They have the Republican dominated House in their pocket, and the Democratic majority in the Senate so brow-beaten and fear-ridden that they would probably rather take a swipe at single-payer than to discuss the expanding of even the most marginal of gun restrictions.
One of the few courageous Democrats to take up the issue is House Representative from New York, Carolyn McCarthy, who shortly after the assault in Tucson that left six dead and badly injured her colleague, Gabrielle Giffords, announced her intention to introduce a bill that would outlaw high capacity magazines like the one used by the shooter in said incident. It should be understood, that Ms. McCarthy comes by her position through brutal experience. In 1993, her husband was murdered and her son badly injured when a man named Colin Ferguson opened fire inside of a Long Island commuter train.
Still, despite her good and sensible intentions, no one thinks her bill will ever even make it to the floor of the Republican controlled House.
As soon as anyone even utters the thought of any type of gun restrictions, folks (typically) on the right start screaming about the Constitution, and freedom, and, well, you know the rest.
But let's get a few things straight here. When our forefathers wrote the second amendment stating our right to bare arms, they owned muskets. If you ever want to see how comparably ineffectual these weapons were compared to modern arms, then go to a Revolutionary war reenactment. Or, just rent Last Of The Mohicans (Daniel Day-Lewis version, naturally). Back in the 18th century, if your opponent took a shot at you and missed, you could scour the ground for a decent stone, walk a couple-a-hundred feet and beat him to death with it in the time it would take him to reload.
And as far as the freedom part, we do--believe it or not--have some sensible restrictions on weaponry in this country. Like you can't own a bazooka or a tank. But if you listen to gun rights advocates, you would swear that McCarthy's bill that would limit magazine capacity to 10 bullets, was the beginnings of a Bolshevik plot. In fact, the NRA actually fought for the rights of people on the "no fly" list to be able to purchase guns. Yeah, you heard that right. They stood up for people who were on the terrorist watch list.
Many of these folk have the dubious idea that more guns equals less crime. Well, this is one extremely well armed country, and the statistics do not bare out their position. A recent statistical analysis ranked the United States 9th out of 38 countries when it came to gun violence. Who beat us? Countries like Mexico, Brazil, and Northern Ireland. Two countries with very high poverty rates and one with centuries of political and religious based acrimony.
Not one first world country had a higher murder per capita rate than us.
So why do so many of us think that if the citizenry were well armed (which it is), we would have less crime? A lot of it has to do with the fantasy. The idea that well, if I had been there with my glock I woulda took that sucker out. First off, that almost never happens. Most people when they hear guns shots don't turn into Gregory Peck and The Guns Of The Navarone. Most people run in the opposite direction. Having a gun does not make you an action hero. It makes you a guy with a gun. That's all.
If you don't believe me, let's take a look at the state with perhaps the most lax gun laws in the union, Arizona. How lax are their gun laws? Well, here are some examples:
In the state of Arizona you do not need a permit to carry a concealed weapon.
You do not need a permit to purchase a handgun.
You do not need to register your handgun.
You do not need a license for your handgun.
You can carry a gun almost anywhere in the state, excepting doctor's offices and private businesses. But you can carry one into government buildings and even the state capitol. Anyone ever heard of Harvey Milk?
You can carry a gun into a bar. Although, you are not allowed to drink alcohol if you do. Which is fascinating to me. For one, why do people go to bars? And for two, who's responsible for making sure that you don't have a gun before you are served? Must the barkeep violate your rights by performing a "pat down?"
They even have a current proposal that would allow students and teachers to bring guns to school. Because what bad thing could happen with a well armed student body? I am willing to bet that certain pistol packing students would see their grades go up. "Oh, I disagree Professor. I think I deserve an 'A.'" Click-click.
The funny thing is, with all this lack of restriction, you might think that Arizona would be the first state that gun rights advocates would bring up when positing the more guns equals less crime argument. But you won't hear that. You won't hear that because Arizona has the 5th highest rate of firearm violence in the nation.
And let me add one more factoid to blow this argument all to hell. When that nutter walked up to congresswoman Giffords and shot her in the face, you know who stopped him after he blasted off 31 rounds and stopped to reload? Two senior citizens and a guy with a folding chair. None of them brandished a firearm. So, in a state with some of the most lenient gun laws in existence, where was our super hero to come in and save us with two guns blazing like he fell off of the silver screen of a John Woo movie? Ah, yes, that's right. They were in the movies.
The subject of gun control is where common sense goes to die. Any suggestion of restriction turns into a "slippery slope" argument about any limitation leading to ultimate limitation. And no statistics, no evidence, or any reason will be considered under any circumstances.
Next Tuesday, President Obama will deliver his third state of the union address. I expect his speech to lean heavily on the economy, civility, and I'm sure Congresswoman Giffords will get her well deserved tribute. But I do not expect him to touch--no matter how lightly--on the subject of gun control. Because he understands the same thing the rest of us do.
Everybody knows this is nowhere.
Sumo-Pop
January 22, 2011
Great read David!
ReplyDeleteCrap. I don't think our Prez will 'touch' this either. What little he is able to get done, these next two years, would be *crushed* not that it already won't be.
ReplyDeleteGun Control? I don't think so... The NRA has already spoken, leaving us silenced. Facsinating article
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ReplyDeleteLOVED this! I just shared. Excellent and to the point. Can't wait to see my thread and the reactions. I am sure that the left will still insist it can be done and don't get me wrong if they get something going I will jump on that bandwagon. I want gun control but it's a sad situation with the NRA who has more power then God it seems!
ReplyDeleteMy point exactly. Ypu can't even have a rational discussion with gun rights advocates. It's all you "hate us for our freedom" type bullshit. It's exhausting. I don't want to give up, I just want to have a chance.
ReplyDeleteI've been touting the musket idea for years. When people disagree with me, I simply say that they are taking a liberal interpretation of the constitution. It shuts them up, but it doesn't change their mind. I also remind them that if our state is to protect itself against the federal government tyranny, that we are seriously underarmed when it comes to nuclear weapons. Why does common sense never win out?
ReplyDeleteIt has no chance. None. Zip. Zero.
ReplyDeletebravo, David.
ReplyDeleteNancy McCampbell Guns & Pro-Life issues, RULE the dialog. Especially in a Republican House Held Majority.
ReplyDeletewe'll see what happens...
ReplyDeleteTrue David! I still will hold out hope! LOL
ReplyDeleteCold skeleton hands by now.
ReplyDeleteI hate that you are spot on with this. It does make me wonder which emotion is stronger in this country, fear or ignorance.
ReplyDeleteIt's not always fun being right.
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ReplyDeleteIn Aus we don't get shootings like we use to, at least not mass shootings. 2 things changed.
ReplyDelete1 Strong gun laws were introduced.
2 We increased funding to mental heath.
Oh and we have very few shook jocks.
Ah, good ol’ Guns n’ Moses. As long as the NRA has lots of votes in their pockets, and while they employ fear and patriotism as their sales pitch we can only wonder where the next mowing will be? Wanting to own automatic weapons that... have no practical use should not outweigh the public’s right to live in a society with sensible firearms restrictions and safety measures. Good article David. When 'they' come for the voices of reason, they won't pull The Third Report from my cold, beer clutchin' hands. Peace brother.See More
ReplyDeleteRob, you just got the award for my favorite response to this and maybe any other articel I've written. :)
ReplyDeleteI cannot stand this man!! Didn't he die last year? After watching him in Michael Moore's movie, Bowling for Columbine, it just made me sick to see what the NRA did and how cold and calculated they really are.
ReplyDeleteIt is hard to believe! Isn't it? The freaking NRA has a lot of power for a bunch of crack pots.
ReplyDeleteThey are a very dangerous group...not to be taken lightly.
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ReplyDeleteIt was a kick-ass headline. Of course, I like anything with Charlton Heston in it. Keep em coming!
ReplyDeleteThank you David, for all that you do.
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ReplyDeleteI could not agree more with this post. It is a tragedy that the NRA holds so much power. It would be political suicide for any politician to bring it up alone. They would need a large group of Congress to bring up any restrictions or control. Why do we need handguns at all?
ReplyDeleteEvery American does not need to run around with a gun. Decrease the number of guns and you provide a more secure environment. America has a unhealthy obsession with guns, which is why we have such a high number of violent crimes in this country.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you so much!! Handguns were made for murder, thats all. You cannot hunt with a handgun, only hunt for humans. I think it is disgusting the way so many people DO cling to their guns and religion. When President Obama made that slip during the campaign, he was absolutely right!
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ReplyDeleteWhy would anyone need an assault weapon other than the police or the Army??
ReplyDeleteI say this not because I believe in it, but because I have heard it spoken..."We need the assault weapons to protect ourselves from the police or army when they come after us."
ReplyDeleteThe gun control discussion is "where common sense goes to die". Very well done.
ReplyDeleteHere in AZ it's absolutely hopeless right now.
ReplyDeleteIn Montana? "Forget about it!"
ReplyDeletePreach it!!!!
ReplyDeleteDave, I feel like Jay-Z. "What more can I say?" Fantastic article.
ReplyDeleteExcellent, thank you David!
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ReplyDeleteDavid: This is EXCELLENT. I hate guns. Period. I have said what you said about muskets for years. The Founding Fathers would never approved of Americans carrying guns such as the shooter in Arizona was carrying. Nothing good would have happened if everyone at the Safeway was armed. Only more people would have been killed. I'm not sure there is an answer to the NRA's $$$$ and influence. Money talks, assholes . . . . .
ReplyDeleteHe wasn't even a good actor.
ReplyDeleteno he wasnt at all him and that other jack ass John wayne who men worshipped couldnt act their way out of a paper bag
ReplyDeleteI have a soft spot for Wayne cause my mom liked him. At least he didn't use his fame in any as Heston did.
ReplyDeletelol..I watched Ben Hurr over Christmas. Heston was a terrible actor! They used him because he was a tall big man, somewhat well built, that's it. He hardly had any clothing on in Ben Hurr, soft porn in those days.
ReplyDeleteIf you like actors that give the same performance over and over again, then Heston's your guy. Thanks for sharing my ramblings, Deb. :)
ReplyDeleteHi David! I adore sharing! ♥
ReplyDeleteNRA has big, big money behind them and yes, it is a shame!
ReplyDeleteWe have guns. We live on a farm and on occasion we have to shoot a nuisance animal or such. They are hunting guns. Nobody EVER needs an assault weapon. I'll take that to the grave. It is paranoia that is keeping this craziness alive. It is ...crazy right wing zealots that keep fanning this gun craze. A hand gun if for killing and killing only. When I got my gun permit, we were taught that if you ever pull a gun on someone you better be prepared to shoot it, and if you shoot it be prepared to KILL whomever you shoot, it will be easier to deal with! Let that whirl about in your head, will ya. The class was full of the biggest bunch of scary, anti Obama, anti-liberal, crazy angry people I had ever been around. I just took my tests, did my target practice and kept to myself. These people are absolutely not right in the head.See More
ReplyDelete@Charlene...When I was trained on guns when I was younger, I was taught the same philosophy...don't pull it unless you are going to use it and if you use it leave no room for questions. I lived in a very racist foster home with links to the KKK. I despise these people and though I had to train with guns again in the US Navy, fortunately with a different terminology of the philosophy.
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ReplyDeleteis he still alive?
ReplyDeleteThankfully, he is not.
ReplyDeletelmaooo
ReplyDeleteAmen?
ReplyDeleteMatt, that is so harsh. I almost spat up when I read that. AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
ReplyDeleteSo we have allowed the NRA to have the last word on this subject. They have their boots firmly planted in the necks of the GOP and the Dems find it to much of a hair splitter when elections roll around. So when is enough enough? When a another massacre rolls round? Another member of Congress is shot or slain? A judge? Another nine year old child? If we are to honor the rights set forth in the 2nd amendment in the 21st century when will common sense prevail that says certain guns and ammunition have no place in our society? No the debate isn't over. But courage and wisdom must be forthcoming from both sides of the aisle before the NRA finds they no longer have the last word.
ReplyDeleteThere are two iussues with the Second Amendment and I am no gun control advocate per se. Everyone talks context. Okay it says for a well regulated militia. The United staes was a small country, rich even then. with a small army of cadre staff and the citizens were the army if invaded. Secondly unlike the Hollywood movies not every one carried a firearm in the West, into toen, Most sherrifs, including Wyatt Earp, in Tombstone made people take them off (except law enforcement). The Hollywood westerns of the 1930s late 1950s (from Stage Coach to Shane) do not accurately in any way shape or form realsitcally portray the Old West. In fact Blazing Saddles reflected the attitudes far more acurately, lert alone Unforgiven or the Sergio Leonne Westerns. I was a national level ex-competition shooter, have hunted with both fireams and fighting knife/bare handed, and carried weapons for 28 years in military service and still consult. I can't see the bloody need to carry a pistol openly into a Starbucks, or claim an AR-15 or clone is for hunting. Practical rifle/soldier wannabe shooting/home protection fine but don't say you ned it for hunting. A double 16-inch barrel or pump loaded with 8 shot works fine. If the criminals are carrying body armor, they aren't or normal criminals.
ReplyDeleteIt is an outdated amendment. I agree with you Martin. I don't see how you can read that and not say that the intent was that you could own a gun in order to maintain a militia. These were men fearing tyranny and they did not want this country to resort to that form of tyranny. I cannot see this country going to battle with it's citizens in this day and age.
ReplyDeleteYeah, the British AIN'T coming.
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ReplyDeleteThis idea that the gun-obsessed, hyper-religious right wing represents the founders of this country, is complete nonsense. Our founders studied science, read plato, hung out in Paris, and were constitutional lawyers. They believed the bible... was mostly bulls**t. They were NOT obsessed with superficial power and manipulative rhetoric.
ReplyDeleteAmerican Freedoms are not represented by "heros" like Heston or "The Duke". Period. America is much more, and better... about diversity, collaboration, innovation, tolerance, leadership, peace and *honor*... and "our fellow man"... NOT about slandering and threatening those who disagree with you, and turning anything you can benefit from into some ugly hyper-drama.
Nothing wrong with guns... they're just a tool. I'm not anti-gun. But they do not represent freedom, or liberty.See More
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ReplyDeleteI am a stickler about details that might make things look like more than what they are. Regardless, I wouldn't want to go to a school that allowed students and teachers to have guns as an adult.
ReplyDeleteI used to teach at a technical college and w...ould find that idea just plain creepy. I had one class room I taught in with NO windows, one door, no cell phone coverage and no emergency intercom or phone system. It was on an underground level with the door under the stairwell. This was despite years of teachers complaining. It is one of the reasons I don't teach there anymore.
You wrote a very good editorial, I shared it on my wall. I envy your gift with words.
If you have links to where you got your data, I'd love them. Particularly the one about the state of Arizona having the high gun crime rate that they do. I greatly appreciate seeing where the data comes from.See More